THERE IS NO HOPE

There are two hopes of getting this development built...No Hope and Bob

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/03/03/100m-redevelopment-of-liverpool-s-hope-street-is-the-latest-victim-of-the-credit-crunch-92534-23047723/


What a shame a nasty smack off job was done to Josephine Butler House


Liverpool Hope Street redevelopment latest victim of credit crunch
Mar 3 2009 by David Bartlett, Liverpool Daily Post

£100m redevelopment of Liverpool’s Hope Street is the latest victim of the credit crunch
THE proposed £100m redevelopment of Liverpool’s historic Hope Street has become the latest victim of the credit crunch.
Maghull Developments, which has mortgages for the project with crisis-hit Royal Bank of Scotland, said it would not be able to finance the mixed-use scheme until it had pre-let a significant proportion of the project.
Managing director Mike Hanlon also said he was unable to give a start date for its £7m office, apartment and retail development on Crosby’s former Central Buildings site.
The company has now applied for permission to build an additional 14 car parking spaces on the site of Josephine Butler House, on the junction of Hope Street and Myrtle Street.
Last year, the company was accused of “hacking the front” off the historic building.
Maghull caused outrage when it claimed it was carrying out “specialist restoration work to the stone facade” of the building ahead of an application to have the building listed.
English Heritage refused to list the building and Maghull was eventually given permission to replace the 1867 former hospital building with 263 basement car parking spaces, a high-class mini market, restaurants, and office space.
The project was essential to the other developments in Hope Street for a hotel and more than 50 apartments, as it would provide car parking for them.
But last night the company said it would be “crystal ball gazing” to predict when work might start.
Its plan is to expand the surface car park on the site of Josephine Butler House from 53 to 67, causing fresh anger.
Liberal Democrat Cllr Berni Turner, historic environment champion, said: “The facade of the building was really attractive, and now we are getting a car park in its place, it’s very disappointing.”
Wayne Colquhoun, of Liverpool Preservation Trust, said what had been done to the building was a shame.
“It’s a disgrace, there is no other way to describe this.”
Labour Cllr Steve Munby, who represents the Riverside ward, said: “This is the latest stage in a grisly disaster for design and development in Liverpool.
“The vultures have picked over the corpse of a beautiful building and what we are left with is a graveyard of civic pride – a corporate car park.”
Mike Hanlon, managing director of Maghull Developments, said the company had to be realistic about building in a recession.
“In the current economic climate, we are not in a position to proceed, he said.
“As a short-term stop gap, we want to demolish the three-storey building facing Myrtle Street (Josephine Butler House) and a single-storey 1960s building.
“We have reports from English Heritage saying there was no significant interest in the building whatsoever. The stone cladding was taken off the building last year.
“The building cost is approaching £40m and the bank would not support any developer without pre-lets to move in.
“We are happy to hold tight for the time being.”
The company had always expected to have to wait while the university vacated other buildings, farther along Hope Street, which are also part of the overall project.
In Crosby, the company has plans for offices, apartments and new shops.
Marks & Spencer Simply Food, Tesco, Argos and HomeBargains are all said to have shown an interest in the Central Buildings scheme.
Maghull Developments owned almost 70% of Crosby Village, until it sold a large section to Sainsbury’s late last year.
Last night, Mr Hanlon said he did not know when work would start.
“It could be 12 months or three years, we will develop once the market picks up,” he said.The destroyed the facade of Josephine Butler house and it is still standing there as a Iconic piece of thuggery which has cut Maghull Developments nose off to spite our face.............they should never have been allowed to get away with this act of sheer and utter vandalism to a building that was stone faced and lay just outside a conservation area by the city council.
We at the Liverpool Preservation Trust asked for heritage protection from the council who stood idly by and watched it be hacked to bits by vandals.

The new application is 09F/0290 and there is a further aplication to return another previos application I think the old science faculty where the promised massive investment to the area it is I understand to be returned to the University who they are in partnership with as the properties subject to development were owned by them.

They also own the town centre of Crosby and that scheme is also at risk as they do not have the funding in place and if a supermarket deal falls through they could be in trouble.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/04/15/what-the-developer-said-to-his-chief-critic-dear-sir-you-are-a-ing-ignorant-pig-100252-20765517/

Hope Street Thugs

http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/dailynews/2008/04/developer_threatens_to_flatten_beatles_tour_guide.html




http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/03/03/demolition-fears-grow-as-developers-move-in-on-iconic-victorian-building-64375-20549239/


http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/03/04/developers-deny-jumping-the-gun-on-demolition-64375-20553330/

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/03/12/100m-hope-street-regeneration-plan-at-risk-after-listing-row-64375-20609714/

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/03/12/city-no-on-100m-dream-for-hope-st-100252-20609851/

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/views/liverpool-debate/2007/09/18/is-heritage-holding-back-progress-in-liverpool-64375-19809451/

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/04/09/campaigners-lose-battle-to-save-historic-city-centre-building-64375-20738858/

Maghull Developments want extra time for £100m Hope Street scheme.

I have just copied todays piece down considering David Bartlett did the same from me.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/07/maghull-developments-ask-for-extension.html

Maghull Developments want extra time for £100m Hope Street scheme.
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/07/30/maghull-developments-want-extra-time-for-100m-hope-street-scheme-92534-26960211/
CONTROVERSIAL Maghull Developments has applied for more time to build a mothballed £100m scheme in Liverpool’s historic Hope Street.

The project to create more than 50 apartments, office space, a high-class mini market, restaurants and an underground car park was hit by the credit crunch.
Three sets of planning permissions for the scheme expire next year and the company wants an extension until 2014.
The project controversially involved knocking down the historic Josephine Butler House, on the junction of Hope Street and Myrtle Street.
Ahead of the first planning application in 2008, the company was accused of “hacking the front” off the historic building causing an outrage.
When the credit crunch hit, the company admitted it could not proceed with the project and knocked part of the 1867 former hospital building down to create a 14-space car park.
Critics of the scheme are calling on the council to refuse the extension.
Last night Richard Gee from Gee Squared Ltd, the planning consultant acting for the company, said: “Maghull Developments has applied to extend its planning consent for Josephine Butler House, 2 Blackburne Place and 68 Hope Street, which expires in 12 months’ time, for a further period of three years.
“The extension will allow for a market upturn before any speculative development begins.”
The company has already reconfigured part of the scheme.
Maghull refurbished the Hahnemann Building to provide short-term flexible office accommodation.
But it hopes to revert to its original plan to convert the Grade II- listed building at 58 Hope Street into a four star 50-bedroom boutique hotel with a bar, restaurant and day-spa.
The firm was forced back to the drawing board with its original plans for a larger hotel in the Hahnemann Building after the building was listed in 2008.
These plans are not part of the extension application.
Simon Taylor, member of the Rodney Street Association, who lives in nearby Canning Street is one of a number of people to lodge objections.
Deputy council leader Paul Brant and Cllr Steve Munby have also objected.
Mr Taylor said: “Given that the case was not straightforward first time round I do not think planning permission should automatically be extended.
“A re-think of the whole project is needed, it is a different climate.”
He said the plans would cramp the already busy street.
“I am also concerned the volume of cars in the area will exacerbate parking problems.”
Last year the Daily Post revealed how Liverpool John Moores University had netted £10m from the sale of buildings which form the basis of Maghull’s scheme.

Tescopool- The Invasion of the Business Snatchers

The TESCOPOOL Invasion continues with Hope Street now being lined up in the sights of fellow Liverpudlian Sir Terry Leahy.

We all lined up to argue about recent planning applications that most thought would destroy the character of Hope Street watching facades being wrecked right in front of the Council Planning departments noses, and now the rot is to set in big time. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/search?q=hope+street
The proposals were for. A massive development opposite to the Art Nouveau Philharmonic public house, originally a hotel. We thought it was out of keeping with the Phil, with its stepped gables and turrets, balconies and oriels designed by Walter Thomas (1898-1900). They just didnt seem to fit in but now we have plans to plonk next door, a shop selling plonk........ a Tesco-Express. Advertised in the last weeks Sunday Times as a place to come and see Liverpool's Culture proclaiming it almost as a separate entity the city the advertisement said Hope Street has Great Architecture, Two Cathedrals, Great hotels and Restaurants mixed with amazing culture by the North West Tourist Board and now its well and truly buggered for any one wanting to set up a small enterprise because Tesco are to illuminate the street.

I wrote some time ago about the strangle-hold of Tesco on Liverpool. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/search?q=tesco-pool (Well before Larry "The Lamb" Neild plagiarised what I wrote, I think, he still thinks he is on the Daily Ghost staff and can take other peoples thoughts). http://www.liverpoolconfidential.com/index.asp?Sessionx=IpqiNwEiNwEmIDP6IHqjNwB6IA

I wrote about the Belle Vale boy of Liverpool Vision helping Tescopilise Britain. Hilary Burridge of the Hope Street wallers and the Merseyside "waste of a good name" Civic Society seems to be well connected with Liverpool Vision, she writes so lyrically to them and often, and in the correspondence I have seen, fondly making suggestions to them. So what will she do about this?.........nothing probably just get a wagon load of publicity for herself and her Friend Louise Ellman.
Steve Mumby who is out of his medical closet does not even represent this ward. But scenting the publicity hes off on one. I admire people having a go, but what will he do?.....Nothing Probably,.
He has two Hopes of stopping this.........No Hope and Bob!

The shelves are as good as stacked they have all the power.
David Bartlett writes
TESCO has announced plans to open an Express store in Liverpool’s historic Hope Street, generating extensive opposition.
The supermarket giant has applied for permission to put up an illuminated sign in a unit next to the Philharmonic Dining Rooms pub.
As the premises is designated an A3 category use, allowing for a cafe or restaurant, it can be changed to A1 – a shop – without planning permission.
Campaigners hope that opposition to the signs proposed by Tesco will help force a rethink. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/08/20/tesco-store-plan-for-liverpool-s-hope-street-sparks-controversy-92534-24484865/



It is not just happening here Nemisis writes with the usual informative reasoning about it on their blog of recent days. http://nemesisrepublic.blogspot.com/2009/08/every-little-hurts.html

http://www.tescopoly.org/ Today's Guardian has an article by George Monbiot on the planned Tesco on the outskirts of his small Welsh town.My town is menaced by a superstore. So why are we not free to fight it off?People know a Tesco will suck the marrow from us. Yet the decision is left in the hands of a remote and frightened council...http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/10/tesco-planning-superstore-independent-shops

Tescopool, Is there Hope in Liverpools New Found People Power.?

Well after all the congratulations in sending Tesco packing from Hope Street and all those supporters of the face book campaign against the proposals to Tescopolise Hope Street you have to ask the question,
'Where, were they all when the world heritage site was being destroyed with carbuncle on carbuncle on the Pier Head'.

Whats more, where were they all while someone dumped these unholy anachronisms on the pavement just down the same road, in between the two cathedrals on Hope Street. I first came across them when I nearly bumped into one whilst walking past the carriage-works, nervously on the way to the not so glorious bail hostel, outside which, I had parked my car. You have to say they are crass satues, and why do the heads stick out like lolly-pops. Is Liverpool turning into The European Capital of Bad Sculpture.
Just what do-gooder person with a white stick commissioned these bronze nightmares by Broadbent who studied with Arthur Dooley.....who also produced some rubbish but in the mix of his legacy is some real emotive sculpture. It did not rub off to the apprentice. If I recall they may have been sponsered by the Echo who someone once said "The only culture in that paper was the free Curry Pasty from Greggs they were giving away the other week". Cant remember who said that! but anyhow.
Oh and the so-called culture correspondent Catherine Jones, was a driving force in pushing these carbuncles into Hope Street. Catherine you should be ashamed. But what do you expect with Alastair Machray as editor of the Oldham Echo. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/08/now-that-culture-for-yeh-08-all-pasties.html
I have only ever sold one Broadbent piece and this is an example of why. He lacks depth of emotion in his work, in my opinion, these are prime examples of ill thought out casting. Did a planning application go in for these godawful totem poles on the pavement right next to Hahnermann house that Berni Turner says she had listed. (Three Cheers for, over, over, exaggeration by Turner). So why was there no campaign over these eyesores. You know, its one step forward and one back in Liverpool and the problem lies here with uneducated Quangi who propose sculpture as public art in this city. That are really lacking in the requisite taste and culture to sanction pavement art. The results show us up as a uncultured city post 2008. Those do-gooders need to stop and appoint people who know what they are talking about.
I recently showed a, really, cultured client from Chicago around Hope Street who just burst out laughing at these pavement cloggers. "What the"...he said I had no explanation.
So on the basis of all these new armchair conservationists, empowered by facebook, isn't it time to reclaim the streets......from the local residents of Hope Street and the ill informed press, let loose in what is now classed as our cultural quarter. Those decision makers, with with bad taste.
Yes it was right to send Tesco packing but on the subject of Liverpool being the European Capital of Bad Sculpture............Every Little Hurts.





And you have to ask......Just what has Morecambe and Wise got to do with Liverpool anyhow.

What Hope!

Hahnermann House.
A colleague of ours Simon Taylor who is an active member of the Georgian Group and is restoring some property in the Georgian Quarter has a keen eye on the area. The Georgians who have a active patron H.R.H Prince Charles and recently did a major survey of the state of Liverpool’s Architectural Georgiana (see The Georgian, Issue 1 2008, see our link section). Simon recently complained to the Riechmarshal Nigel Lee about the 2 weeks consultation period for plans no (RE: Hahnemann Building / 58 Hope Street, L1 - Planning and Listed Building Applications (09F/0932 & 09L/0933) . They the council admitted that they had put an advert in the Merseymart too late, Hmm, and not given adequate time to the public, Hmm, whats new there. They have subsequently extended the deadline for objections to the 19th of June. They, the council with Chris Ridland as case officer have been working with the developers for 3 years and the public get 14 days, something wrong there.
The offensive part of the original plans where a massive monolithic extension on the back, not in keeping with...well anything really.


So it gives all the Councillor Steve Mumby's of this world the chance to get some publicity for objecting to plans for the trendy Hope Street. We will also have to put up with another load of waffle from Hilary Burridge of the pathetic Merseyside Civic Society. She, in my opinion, never leaves the street and only complains about anything in Hope Street while she is in her own words Honorary Campaign manager for her shyness the “Dame of Dereliction” Louise Ellman whose constituancy this is in.
If you have anything to say folks get down to the planners and look at the plans first, no point in moaning after the event.

We at the LPT made an application to have this building listed and as such we feel we have saved it from what would have been a disaster. We had to bypass the local English Heretics because we consider them not fit for purpose and Henry Owen-John their regional development Director is more interested in sucking up to developers than protecting the historic fabric of the city like he should. It was the case that it was of architectural merit that the national office listed it, right under the noses of the Local office and Mr Mannering and Co at the local conservation(sic)office. I felt that there were too many links from the City Council to local developers and this is a case where I believe rules were being bent to accommodate the Developer Maghull. Mike Hanlon recently thanked me, shaking my hand, he said, “You have done us a favour we are glad it’s listed”, Oh yeah that’s not what Mr Maghull was saying last year. Mr Maghoul now lives in Hope street, no its not in a coffin in St James cemetery and he doesn’t only come out at night, as has been suggested, its in a neat Georgian house. He has recently joined the Georgian group. It seems he is a reformed character. Josephine Butler house still stands as a reminder to his wicked ways.
He recently got broken into, I thought it was Phil Coppel the tour guide he said publicly he would bury in the foundations of JB House but prominent lawyer Reximillions Makinitup told me that he alleged that some-one allegedly told him that it was alleged that some-one was allegedly seen running away and it looked like Hilary Porridge wielding an alleged sharp instrument and that she may have been trying, allegedly to get her own back…...well they said it looked like Nosferatu the Vampire but you cant kid me. Anyway he was not at home. A note was left saying welcome to Hope Street Mr Magool. Sinister!

I don’t think this scheme will happen myself there are far too many hotels in Liverpool now and the market is taking a dive and in the meantime Maghoul are going to rent it out as offices.

Will these plans now finally be passed now that Baron Wadley's mate fellow fireman the burst Hurst is not on the planning committee. Will David "am I bovvered" Irving finally get his way. The original application, I advised him at the "switched" planning committee meeting at the Cockerel Rooms at St Georges Hall did not have listed building consent application with it. He had to refuse it, or was it defer. And why was there an unprecedented case of lumping four planning applications in as one whole planning application thus confusing most of the many objectors, ten of who turned up late as they had been waiting outside the town hall, the usual planning committee meeting place. Its not Cricket. Its like the planners make their own game up.

IF A PICTURE TELLS A THOUSAND WORDS.

pic courtesy the Proffessor

Mr Brocklebank Turns Into An Estate Agent?

When I used to write most of the Brocklebank column it had an edge.
We exposed Iliad who destroyed 6 Sir Thomas St, and Maghull Developments for destroying Josephine Butler House, helping to show them up for what they were. Property doing damage had a rough ride.
Bernie Turner as a so called historic champion had a rough ride too.

I spoke to the new Mr Brocklebank only a couple of weeks ago who assured me that when he went for a free lunch with a property developer he told them "It doesn't mean that I will write anything up about you". Well said old boy.
The Old Mr Brocklebank also wrote about the destruction of all the trees in Church Street lobbed down overnight in an act of vandalsim by the council.
Even the recent disturbances left the cities trees intact.

When Canada Boulevards Maples, donated by the Canadian Government to make a honourable remembrance for Canada's war hero's, and the fallen, in the second world war, he was there writing about it. 
The outrage.

But something has come over very queer with the "New" Mr Brocklebank he now appears to be supporting property developers such as David Brewitt and Alan Beers company, Urban Edge Ltd, who want to build student boutique accommodation in the Hope Street area.
This sounds a spun up term made up by a PR company, no surprise when Jon Egan and Co at Aurora Media have been Alan Beers PR for years.

WHO’D be a property developer, eh? Mr Brocklebank says

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/views/liverpool-columnists/mr-brocklebank/2011/08/11/mr-brocklebank-regeneration-and-renewal-in-liverpool-what-a-riot-92534-29216253/
Not only does one run the risk of seeing his properties trashed by the baying hordes of rioters who have taken to the streets of Liverpool this week, but he also runs the risk of falling foul of the mobilis vulgaris more commonly known as the planning committee.
So found David Brewitt, owner of the Hope Street Hotel, who addressed this week’s planning committee ahead of its decision on his plans to refurbish the old orphanage, on Myrtle Street.
The meeting began on a sombre note when Mr Brewitt explained that his other luxury student dwellings atop of Tesco, farther up Myrtle Street, had fallen victim to vandalism.
Important it was, he said, that we show that, as a city, we can’t be cowed and are very much open for business.
A plea that appears to have fallen on deaf ears, if the planning committee’s decision on the orphanage was anything to go by.
In what some might say was a classic “can’t see the wood for the trees” scenario, planning chairman Cllr John Mackintosh ruled that concerns over the fate of the plane trees on Myrtle Street were enough to put the £13m project on ice. Who’d be a developer, indeed?


Now I hate the way this planning committee operates but thought on this occasion common sense was being used and they were wanting to protect the trees.......simple as that.

Last week Marc Waddington who was at the planning committee meeting wrote http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/08/10/row-over-trees-puts-bid-for-luxury-liverpool-student-pads-on-hold-100252-29208619/
Council woodland and tree manager Peter Howsen said if the plan went ahead, the trees would be too close to the new build upper floors and would require excess pruning which would lead to their eventual deaths.

He argued for the development to be set back an extra two metres to protect the trees.

The week before he spun it up into an advertorial of sorts for the developers. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/08/04/13m-to-turn-liverpool-orphanage-into-posh-student-flats-100252-29174661/

The bid to bring the Grade II-listed orphanage back into use has won the support of English Heritage, subject to concerns about the retention of internal features and building materials being allayed.

Mr Brewitt said: “Historically it’s a fantastic building which will be brought back into use with minimum intervention.
“We’ve tried to take some of the ideas from boutique hotels so we aim to offer the equivalent of the Hope Street Hotel for students.
“The accommodation students get these days is quite staggering in terms of quality, but it does appeal more to overseas and postgraduate students.
“It’s about the more discerning end, the more studious students.”

The old Liverpool orphanage was set up to help the poor children of Liverpool how times change.


Lets hope Mr Brocklebank does not become a Daily Ghost PR Plumper.

Mike McCartney-Professional Scouser and Pisstaker.

Correspondent sent me a link to a new exhibition of the work of Edward Chambre Hardman which is opening 26th July, and running to 20th August 2010. He sent this link from Directory of Liverpool.net  http://directoryofliverpool.net/blog/2010/07/22/26th-july-to-20th-august-2010-hardmans-hope-exhibition-liverpool-cathedral/

Hardman’s ‘Hope’ Exhibition


26th July-August 20th
Liverpool Cathedral is to host a new digital photography exhibition charting life in the Hope Street Quarter from the 1920’s to the 1970’s.

‘Hardman’s Hope’, which features photographs taken by renowned Liverpool photographer E. Chambré Hardman, will run from July 26th.
The exhibition will be narrated by fellow photographer Mike McCartney, whose expert opinion, natural humour and love of Liverpool help bring the exhibition to life.
There will also be a ‘hands on’ exhibition of vintage cameras used by Hardman and the chance to try the family trail, ‘Stomp and Click,’ which takes visitors through the Hope Street Quarter, allowing them to walk in the shoes of Hardman and take their own contemporary photographs of the area.
Access to the Cathedral, exhibition and the trail is free with a prize for those who complete the trail and the chance to submit photographs taken for a large collage, which will be used in the final week of the exhibition.
Visitors looking for inspiration for the Cathedral 2 Cathedral Photography Competition, ‘Life in Hope’ (which closes on August 20th) can also find encouragement in Hardman’s work.
Although he had an excellent reputation throughout the city for his work with portraits, it wasn’t until after his death that his photography was truly appreciated, showing the changes to Liverpool over the years.
Hardman’s house and studio at 59 Rodney Street, along with his huge collection of images, was acquired by the National Trust in 2002.
It is the only known photographic studio of the twentieth century where all of the work has been preserved intact alongside his home, personal and business papers.
For more information on the exhibition or the Cathedral 2 Cathedral photographic competition, visit http://www.liverpoolcathedral.org.uk/

59 Rodney Street is open Weds – Sun, 11am – 3.30pm. Admission is by timed ticket. For details and bookings call 0151 709 6261.

The exhibition is curated by Scafolder Mike McCartney. brother of Paul, professional scouser, who lives on the Wirral and general lazy pisstaker... and alleged fondler.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/03/chambre-hardman-and-lost-city-of.html See part of a programme narrated by John Peel telling the Chambre Hardman tale.

We had to wrestle this archive off him and his fellow trustees.
The full reality is he was one of the trustees who wanted to close down the house in Rodney Street and send the collection off to the Bradford Museum of Film, which one of the fellow trustees ran.
He was one of the trustees that I exposed after going through the accounts at the Charity Commission, and handing them over to the press, as wasting 300 grand of actual money, and letting the house go to rack and ruin.
He was the one who I complained to David Porter of the National Trust, to be a goon, and already let the Chambre Hardman bequeath become into such a perrilous situation, and that he should not be let near it ever again.
" I may feel the same way as you, but the situation is, that we need his brothers imput...and finances, and so we have to have him on board whether we like it or not"
I wonder how much Paul "Macca" McCartney will donate to put his little brother out front of this exhibition?

Tesco For Dale Street-Every Little Hurts.

They are Tescopolysing the city they now have plans submitted for 57-63 Dale Street in the World Heritage Site. Plans were put forward by the godawful architects Falconer Hall Chester for this site. They may the biggest architect whores in the city. It was a long time ago, in our opinion, that they sold thier souls, to, well not even the highest bidder.............just anyone really.

Our friends at Seven Streets wrote about them when plans that were passed . http://www.sevenstreets.com/city-living/dale-street-scheme-gets-green-light/ they quoted the architects. After a ‘turbulent’ two years in the planning stages, Liverpool architects Falconer Chester Hall have secured approval for a new hotel and retail/car park scheme along Dale Street.

“It’s been a very difficult birth,” Falconer Chester Hall’s Managing Director, Adam Hall told SevenStreets. (They went on writing) Still, with Falconer Chester Hall working on a boutique hotel, Layla – for Iliad, almost directly opposite their 57 Dale Street site (although technically on Sir Thomas Street), maybe Dale Street’s overdue happy ending isn’t so far away after all.


“Not every old building is, by rights, worthy of a stay of execution. You have to look at the overall mix. And we’re confident this development is exactly what this area of town needs,” Hall says, delighted that two years of wrangling has ended in the result he was hoping for.

We bet they’ll be raising a glass in the Vernon Arms tonight, too. Iliad were the vandals who destroyed 6 Sir Thomas Street.

Planning application 13F/0052 for 57-63 Dale Street is to remove conditions laid down in plans 09F/2531 which is to install new shopfront and anti ram-raid bollocks in the WHS.

Will those posh little luvvies who kicked up such a fuss over plans to open a Tesco in Hope Street even blink an eye at this one?
...in the WHS...........we will see.
There didnt seem to be much fuss when the opened one by the Pier Head.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/tesco-opens-store-in-liverpools-world.html

Those Tesco-tearaways are sowing the city up.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/tesco-tear-aways.html

Bernie Turner, whatever happened to the mouth, http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/berni-turner-opens-her-big-gob-again.html  used to shop there, despite a lot of fishy business
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/berni-turner-and-tin-of-sardines.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/tescopool-power-to-people.html


Is there any Hope
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/tescopool-is-there-hope-in-liverpools.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/tescopool-power-to-people.html







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Hahneman House Hope Street

Liverpool Preservation Trust
11-13 Holts arcade
India Buildings
Water St
Liverpool L2 0RR
I was approached in my office by Micheal Hanlon of Maghull Developments the perpetrators of hacking off everyone in Liverpool as well as the stone façade of Josephine Butler house.
The LPT along with others made a application to have Hahnermann House in Hope street listed and this was in fact done at the 11th Hour, on the 25th Feb 08 just days before a planning committee meeting.
This was done despite the developers and the city council claiming that English Heritage were consulted in the planning process….this was untrue.
They, EH, were written to by the planning manager, with a bog standard letter worded in such a way to not give any concern to the quality of the building. We had to bypass the local EH office. I advised the committee that a application for listed building consent was not included in the plans and David “am I bovvered” Irving the chair of the committee, perplexed had to take our advice.
Outside I overheard delegates for Maghull saying….”He just wasn’t strong enough with them” referring to the deferment of the plans that were later withdrawn.
Micheal Hanlon now wants to talk to all those people he called Heritage Wankers and has asked if I can have a look at a scaled down version of the plans for Hahnemann, minus the massive glass box at the back. Is this a new dawn or is it tactics? Am I interested in seeing the plans so I can advise other interested parties.
I am considering this request noting that this is a way to quell the natives, but on the understanding that this is not part in any way of a consultation exersise with them and cannot be construed as such as I consider a company who behave like Maghull did, are not up to behaving in a gentlemanly manner and are incapable of having any consideration for Liverpools heritage and just want to make as much as they can. We will see.
Despite being very nice to me, he also said to me (27th Mar 09) that he doesn’t care what anyone thinks. He also said that Nigel (Lee) is to pass the demolition of a wooden structure on the JB House site under delegated powers.
This is a new tactic that Riechmarshal Nigel Lee is using more often to bypass people with a genuine concern and should not be used on this occasion in my opinion.

LETTER FROM ENGLISH HERITAGE regarding Hahnemann House Hope Street

04 March 2008

Dear Wayne Colquhoun,

Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990
Buildings of Special Architectural or Historic Interest

FORMER HAHNEMANN HOMEOPATHIC HOSPITAL AND DISPENSARY, 42-56, HOPE STREET, LIVERPOOL, MERSEYSIDE

I am writing further to our previous correspondence regarding the application to list the above
building.

The Secretary of State, after consulting English Heritage, the Government's statutory adviser,
has decided to list the building at grade II. The reasons are:

· The building's design and use of good quality materials and workmanship mark it out as an architecturally accomplished C19 hospital building.
· Internally the building remains relatively unaltered with a surviving original plan form and numerous original features still in situ.
· The building is still clearly readable as a former hospital
· It remains a very good example of a relatively rare specialist hospital type that was constructed at a time when homeopathic medical practice was at its peak of popularity.

This letter gives notice of listing prior to the relevant local authority preparing the statutory
notices required under the Act. Meanwhile, it is important to be aware that the listing of the
building has already taken effect.

If you consider that the decision has been wrongly made you may write to the Department for
Culture, Media and Sport within 28 days of the date of this letter to request that the Secretary
of State review the decision. An example of a decision made wrongly would be where there
was a factual error or an irregularity in the process which affected the outcome. You may also
ask the Secretary of State to review the decision if you have any significant evidence relating
to the special architectural or historic interest of the building which was not previously
considered. Further details of the review criteria and process are contained in the annex to this
letter.

I have enclosed a copy of the list entry and our Adviser's Report for your information.
Yours sincerely

Ms Annika Nickson
Territory Co-ordinator, North

Liverpool Conservation Office-Not Fit For Purpose

 We wrote Tuesday, 23 August 2011


Another Hacking Scandal-Right In Front Of The Liverpool Conservation Officers Eyes.
It started some while ago, a complete lack of disregard for history.
Those concerned slowly become ignorant to the law, and the law lets them get away with it. Because they were the law.

A subculture unfolded, where no punishment is dished out, there may even be advice given directing people how to get way with it.
Those rioters did no damage compared to the Liverpool planners and their property developing councillors.
It started, with Trevor and Doreen Jones, so said Private Eye, who wacked down the last Ships Chandlers on the Strand, next to the Baltic Fleet public house. They downed it on the Saturday after a listing application was received by the council on the Friday.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/superlambanana-land.html
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/undeclared-interest-of-jones-vote.html

Lady Doreen Jones was the then chair of the City Planning Committee. What a scandal.

Then it was 6 Sir Thomas Street, they, of Iliad, the developers, seemingly quite cosy with the city council, sent out a team of ignorant little hackers with jack-hammers to smash up the frontage, carved Liver Birds and all. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/heres-one-they-did-earlier.html

The task to smash off the façade……right under the window of the then council leader Warren “War Zones” Bradley, who said “I wondered what all the noise was”.
This happened while awaiting the visit of an English Heritage Inspector. It now looks like a pigs ear.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2011/01/layla-hotel-liverpool-destroying.html

Then the arrogant Maghull Developments smashed off the façade of Josephine Butler House when, guess what awaiting a listing visit from the English Heretics.
Hahnermann House had received a Grade II listing that we applied for, hours before a planning committee decision to develop the site with a horrendous extension.

Mike Hanlon would tell me later on “You did us a favour there, with Hahnermann House”.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/04/liverpool-preservation-trust-11-13.html

He did himself no favours in destroying JBH as all the fluffy duffys were out in force declaring it a national disaster. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/httpwww.html
 While they dont give a hoop to anything out of Hope Street.

JBH is now credit crunched. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/03/03/100m-redevelopment-of-liverpool-s-hope-street-is-the-latest-victim-of-the-credit-crunch-92534-23047723/


Still, in the Baltic Triangle, see above picture the same old, same old is happening.
Despite them telling us the Baltic Triangle will become a Cultural Quarter. Not quite sure how you get a triangle into a quarter?

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/10/liverpools-baltic-triangle-to-become.html
 Its a Culture of Facade Hacking more like. Some things never change.
Drivingdown Bridgewater Street and there was a cherry picker and hackers at work, twatting off yet another facade, nothing changes. Its not listed. Steve Corbett says it has architectural merit though.....and thats about it.

Here's the sketch, smash the façade about on any given property, its a tried and tested method, and it looks a mess and then claim its an eyesore and then an otherwise decent building is downed and hey Presto! a Jerry Build goes up for half the cost. Hacking scandals, Liverpool is full of them

There are already plans for next door. 3, 5 and 7 Bridgewater Street.

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/04/57-9-bridgewater-street-up-for.html

The Conservation Officer is a waste of time, I even get the feeling he has to be aware of it all, as no-one in the job of Conservation, in my opinion, can be so thick, or so behind the times, well apart from John Hinchliffe the World Heritage Waste of Space that stands by and watches the WHS be decimated.
Not sure if the both of them are deaf and dumb because they never hear anything and never say anything. On the rare occasion they do stutter some rubbish its usually wrong and misguided. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/08/heaps-rice-mill-grade-ii-listed-and.html
Heaps Rice Mill will be down next.
While Malcolm Kennedy, the Council Cabinet Member for Regeneration (code for lets help Peel Holdings destroy the WHS) appointed by Frank McKenna, I mean Joe Anderson, tells us how wonderful it all is.

Regeneration or Degeneration, another hacking scandal, this time, half a mile from what we are told, is a booming Grosvenor-pool.

Here is what the Conservation officer said in correspondece Wayne had with waste of space Steve Corbett


Mr Corbett I wrote to you some time ago regarding this property in Bridgewater Street


You advised it was an historic building.

Would you please advise me what you have done to help conserve this building since we last corresponded on the matter

Wayne Colquhoun


Mr Corbet this is in Bridgewater Street in front of the new development for the Womans training and next to the antique store.
I have pictures of the facade being hacked off with a cherry picker and wish to ask you the status of this structure, my understanding is it may be listed.
I look forward to hearing from you
Wayne Colquhoun
Reply Forward
liverpool preservationtrust
4/15/11
to Nigel

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: liverpool preservationtrust

Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Subject: Baltic Hack off
To: "Corbett, Steve"

Mr Corbet this is in Bridgewater Street in front of the new development for the Womans training and next to the antique store. I have pictures of the facade being hacked off with a cherry picker and wish to ask you the status of this structure, my understanding is it may be listed. I look forward to hearing from you Wayne Colquhoun

Reply Forward
Corbett, Steve

4/15/11
to Paul, Peter, me
Dear Mr Colquhoun,

thanks for letting us know about this. The building is neither listed nor in a conservation area. However, it does appear to be an interesting historic building in the 'Baltic Triangle' - an area that colleagues in the Council and at Liverpool Vision are trying to encourage improvements and investment.

Removing the render would materially alter the building's appearance which would be subject to planning control. I have copied-in my colleagues from the Planning Enforcement Team (who will confirm whether a breach of planning control has occurred) and the City Centre Planning Team (who will advise what is needed to be done by the owner to remedy the breach - taking advice from my own team as necessary).



I will ask my colleague Paul Vertigen in the Planning Enforcement Team to let you know the outcome (thanks Paul).

Regards,

Stephen Corbett BA(Hons), DipTP, DipUD, MSc(Dist), MRTPI, IHBC. Chartered Town Planner

Building Conservation Team Leader

Planning & Building Control Service

Liverpool City Council

4th Floor, Millennium House, 60 Victoria Street, Liverpool L1 6JF

Postal address: Liverpool City Council, Municipal Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool L2 2DH

Tel: 0151 233 5623 Fax: 0151 233 4290

E-mail: steve.corbett@liverpool.gov.uk

Web: http://www.liverpool.gov.uk

______________________________

From: liverpool preservationtrust [mailto:liverpoolpreservationtrust@gmail.com]

Sent: 15 April 2011 12:37

To: Corbett, Steve

Subject: Baltic Hack off

Mr Corbet this is in Bridgewater Street in front of the new development for the Womans training and next to the antique store.

I have pictures of the facade being hacked off with a cherry picker and wish to ask you the status of this structure, my understanding is it may be listed.

I look forward to hearing from you

We waited, and waited and we heard............... NOTHING

So here it is today............or here it is not as it is now being knocked down.

Here is what the Conservation office do...........Sod all.

Berni Turner-Opens Her Big Gob Again.

And off she goes. It has to be Berni Big Mouth Turner. More publicity seeking press bites. This time its trendy Hope Street, but it was, at one time how wonderful she is to be a heritage champion and what she does for Liverpools Heritage. Example. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/02/05/liverpool-georgian-terraces-given-listed-status-64375-20435418/ So what happened to all these buildings you listed Ms Turner that are right in front of the Municipal Buildings.........well apparently they are still falling over and have been for the past 20 years. We are so grateful.

A heritage champion (sic) for the Fib Dems and cabinet member for the environment, who whilst controlling the city have lost 46 listed buildings yes 46. How do thee people get away with it?

JUST WHY DID SHE FALL OUT WITH MIKE STOREY?

She is, this time talking about Tesco opening in Hope Street but she could be in real trouble for calling Tesco an "evil empire" on face book. Back to There is just something plain WRONG about a Tesco on Hope Street which now has 571 members at time of writing.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=259254990413&ref=ss

Her original comment said

Bernadette wrote at 04:34 on 22 August 2009
So agree,we do not need another tacky red and blue outpost of Sir Terry's evil empire!
Bernadette wrote at 03:24 yesterday
Following my comments in this morning's Daily Post and on this site my office has received a call from a Mr Kissman, Head of Corporate Affairs at Tesco, who wants to discuss my "Evil Empire" remarks with me!!!He's a tad cross apparently!

Yes they would and lets hope she gets a good warning what makes her think in future. If she gets in trouble she only has herself to blame. On David Bartletts blog victor denton said:
What a hyprocrit Berni Turner is
slap bang in the middle of her very own ward is a massive Tesco that has completley revitalised old swan and made it a pleasnt place to shop.
Perhaps she's like them to leave old swan as well and make numerous of her constituents unemployed!
also why is an elected representative of this city calling another native of this City (perhaps one of the most successful!) "evil"
Obviously Sir Terry is not going to have a clue who Berni Turner is. However as ive just emailed his PA dwawing attention to Berni Comments, perhaps she will soon be hearing from messars Carter and Ruck/
lets hope so. the publicity seeking fool deserves it

and

Peter Cranie said:
This presumably means that the Liberal Democrats are now opposed to taking further donations from Tesco? Labour and the Conservatives have also been happy to take donations from them in the past.
http://archive.corporatewatch.org/profiles/tesco/tesco3.htm

She is member for Old Swan which has a giant Tesco on the corner, was she then fighting against it for her residents.

Did she do anything about Jospephine Butler House no not really but she did have the usual gutteral swipe. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/04/08/d-day-for-decision-on-controversial-demolition-of-historic-building-to-make-way-for-shops-and-offices-64375-20733169/

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/04/09/campaigners-lose-battle-to-save-historic-city-centre-building-64375-20738858/

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/capitalofculture/news/tm_method=full%26objectid=20251418%26siteid=50061-name_page.html which says.

Cllr Berni Turner, city executive member for environment and heritage, said: “The Buildings at Risk project has been a success story for the city.
“We’ve targeted some of the most neglected but significant buildings in the city and have helped to bring them back into use. RUBBISH WHAT ABOUT THE 46 LISTED BUILDINGS LOST? Ms Turner. What about the ten buildings still on English Heritage at risk register?

SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE AT ONE TIME.

http://councillors.liverpool.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=314

Ms Turner would it be that your mouth operates without engaging your brain. Over a development row at Edge Lane she said "The judge needed a good slapping". I am of the opinion that this woman is out of control and takes any debate that she gets involved in to the gutter this is not what being a heritage champion should do.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/views/liverpool-columnists/mr-brocklebank/2009/04/28/mr-brocklebank-council-leader-sprouts-new-idea-92534-23487387/

Mr Brocklebank: Council leader sprouts new idea
Apr 28 2009 Liverpool Daily Post
IS LIVERPOOL City Council taking its Year of the Environment too personally?
At an executive board meeting, during an item to encourage “green” entrepreneurs with a business week, the following cryptic exchange took place, with council leader Warren Bradley asking “Is Berni Turner going as a sprout?” To which Cllr Turner riposted: “Only if you dress up as a turnip.”
Mr Brocklebank is reminded of the popular Spitting Image sketch of the Tory cabinet at dinner and Mrs Thatcher ordering a steak. When asked by the waitress, “What about the vegetables?” she snaps, “They’ll have the same as me!”

Another Hacking Scandal-Right In Front Of The Liverpool Conservation Officers Eyes.

It started some while ago, a complete lack of disregard for history.
Those concerned slowly become ignorant to the law, and the law lets them get away with it. Because they were the law.

A subculture unfolded, where no punishment is dished out, there may even be advice given directing people how to get way with it.
Those rioters did no damage compared to the Liverpool planners and their property developing councillors.

It started, with Trevor and Doreen Jones, so said Private Eye, who wacked down the last Ships Chandlers on the Strand, next to the Baltic Fleet public house. They downed it on the Saturday after a listing application was received by the council on the Friday.

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/superlambanana-land.html
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/undeclared-interest-of-jones-vote.html  

Lady Doreen Jones was the then chair of the City Planning Committee. What a scandal.

Then it was 6 Sir Thomas Street, they, of Iliad, the developers, seemingly quite cosy with the city council, sent out a team of ignorant little hackers with jack-hammers to smash up the frontage, carved Liver Birds and all.  http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/heres-one-they-did-earlier.html
The task to smash off the façade……right under the window of the then council leader Warren “War Zones” Bradley, who said “I wondered what all the noise was”.
This happened while awaiting the visit of an English Heritage Inspector. It now looks like a pigs ear.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2011/01/layla-hotel-liverpool-destroying.html

Then the arrogant Maghull Developments smashed off the façade of Josephine Butler House when, guess what awaiting a listing visit from the English Heretics.
Hahnermann House had received a Grade II listing that we applied for, hours before a planning committee decision to develop the site with a horrendous extension.

Mike Hanlon would tell me later on “You did us a favour there, with Hahnermann House”.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/04/liverpool-preservation-trust-11-13.html
He did himself no favours in destroying JBH as all the fluffy duffys were out in force declaring it a national disaster. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/httpwww.html  While they dont give a hoop to anything out of Hope Street.
JBH is now credit crunched. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/03/03/100m-redevelopment-of-liverpool-s-hope-street-is-the-latest-victim-of-the-credit-crunch-92534-23047723/


Still, in the Baltic Triangle, see above picture the same old, same old is happening.
Despite them telling us the Baltic Triangle will become a Cultural Quarter. Not quite sure how you get a triangle into a quarter?
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/10/liverpools-baltic-triangle-to-become.html  

Its a Culture of Facade Hacking more like. Some things never change.
 I drove down Bridgewater Street and there was a cherry picker and hackers at work, twatting off yet another facade, nothing changes. Its not listed. Steve Corbett says it has architectural merit though.....and thats about it.


Here's the sketch, smash the façade about on any given property, its a tried and tested method, and it looks a mess and then claim its an eyesore and then an otherwise decent building is downed and hey Presto!  a Jerry Build goes up for half the cost. Hacking scandals, Liverpool is full of them
There are already plans for next door. 3, 5 and 7 Bridgewater Street.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/04/57-9-bridgewater-street-up-for.html

The Conservation Officer is a waste of time, I even get the feeling he has to be aware of it all, as no-one in the job of Conservation, in my opinion, can be so thick, or so behind the times, well apart from John Hinchliffe the World Heritage Waste of Space that stands by and watches the WHS be decimated.
Not sure if the both of them are deaf and dumb because they never hear anything and never say anything. On the rare occasion they do stutter some rubbish its usually wrong and misguided. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/08/heaps-rice-mill-grade-ii-listed-and.html
Heaps Rice Mill will be down next.

While Malcolm Kennedy, the Council Cabinet Member for Regeneration (code for lets help Peel Holdings destroy the WHS) appointed by Frank McKenna, I mean Joe Anderson, tells us how wonderful it all is.

Regeneration or Degeneration, another hacking scandal, this time, half a mile from what we are told, is a booming Grosvenor-pool.

Warren's War Zones Ignite.

The looters were out in force, one got a plasma screen, one got a set of dining chairs, one a dirty movie, and another got a duck house, and not one of them had a hood on.

Just what is wrong with society when thieves are operating right in front of your noses and stealing from their own......... and they are the very Members of Parliament that were elected to stop theft, to protect us?.

Where has the respect gone?

What is wrong with society when the Police are taking back'anders off the corrupted press?

What is wrong with society when Matrix officers are sacked by the Merseyside Police for having a total disrespect for the people, be they goodies or hoodies, that they represent?.

What is wrong with society when a City Council destroys its own people's hopes by creating blight in whole swathes of Toxteth, Anfield, Norris Green etc, etc? Degenerating huge swathes of the city.

 http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2011/05/liverpool-capital-of-vandalism.html

What is wrong with society when our own city council by its own leaders admission creates "War Zones" while some of his councillor buddies are coining it?
While others are dole-ing out millions of pounds of European Objective One funds, y'know the billion pounds that we had to enable us to clean up those "Inner Cities" after the Toxteth Riots of 81.
While its alright for a Council to destroy a neighbourhood such as the Welsh Streets, its certainly not if you live there and are at the end of your wits, watching your father duck and dive because he hasn't got a job and has no prospect of one, got the wrong postcode and no education.
Never got an apprenticeship, never got a look in on the billion pounds that went into a new museum on the waterfront and blocks of flats that you cant live in.
What happens when you can't afford to shop in Grosvenor-pool, that was looted from the people of Liverpool, err I mean given away to a lovely Duke to add to his already sizable fiefdom?
What happens when your MP is a hopeless waste of time.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/04/louise-ellman-dame-of-dereliction-time.html

Well I don't condone any of the violence that were called riots, by the local press to sensationalize it all.
http://condensedthoughts.blogspot.com/2011/08/dealing-with-distortion.html
Correspondent calls it a distortion of the facts.
Most of the local press are about 12 years of age, and they got a chance in life, what do they know of poverty, some of them even went out of the office this week.
But they don't have to get "sussed" everytime they go out for a new sim card. Blame the parents, blame the schools. Blame anyone but yourself at Trinity "Smoking" Mirrors of Oldham Hall Street, filling pages with rubbish about how we are in a new dawn, a new age of prosperity spoon fed through from PR people such as Jon Egan and Larry Nield. While ignoring the true situation.
  http://blogs.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/dalestreetblues/2011/08/ben-turner-britains-got-riots.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LiverpoolDailyPost-DaleStreetBlues+%28Liverpool+Daily+Post+-+Dale+Street+Blues%29

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/10/6-sir-thomas-street-every-right-to-feel.html
What of the vandals of 6 Sir Thomas Street http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/10/6-sir-thomas-street-every-right-to-feel.html or Josephine Butler House in Hope Street. 
Are they no better than thugs?                 
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/no-hope.html  

I have already written on these pages of my own experiences during the Toxteth Riots.
My current adjacent shopkeeper owned the newsagents in Granby Street where it all started.
You would have had to have been there believe the state of Toxteth with decades of neglect. Why is it still a War Zone 30 years later?
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/06/louise-ellman-mp-dame-of-dereliction.html

So the so called rioters attacked Lawrence Road, believe me this is a poor area and why?

Why didn't the FibDems invest in the area, instead of creating War Zones, now on fire, in Toxteth, that, Ironically Warren Bradley the ex FibDm Council leader, who is a fireman and drives an appliance, would have been called to put out.
Did he actually extinguish the burnt out car in Princes Avenue in the picture above?

 http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2011/04/warren-bradley-resigns-and-then-is.html

What happens for the future, Joe Anderson has to condemn the lost causes on the streets the other night that the Police sorted out (In reality it rained like stink).

Yes I would like to put most of them over my knee and tan their arses, but you know what would be better.......give the poor hopeless bastards a job, let them train as a joiner or a bricklayer so they can gain some self respect, so it never happens again. 

How can we respect hem if they don't respect themselves.

Joe Anderson Defends His Mates At Neptune Developments Lime Street Plans-But Does He Have The Intellect To Understand Them?

Having a Thickhead for a Mayor is always going to be difficult where our heritage is concerned. Neptune Developments Director used to work for the city council planning department. NEPTUNE ARE THE VANDALS WHO DESTROYED MANN ISLAND WITH THE THREE BLACK COFFINS.Neptunes PR company Archetype Studios who were Aurora Media and October Communications were PR for the fat mans Mayoral campaign. Isn't that a co-incidence or three
So it is no wonder he is in the paper today speaking up for the plans for Lime Street that are an architectural mess.SAVE Britains Heritage are quoting the world heritage site...........better late than never........(where were they when we were being put on the Unesco World Heritage In Danger List)...lets hope they can persuade "Joe Must Go" Anderson that he is talking out of his big backside and there are more important things than looking after his mates when Liverpools Heritage is concerned. 
IS JOE ANDERSON A TORY?
PREVIOUSLYWill SAVE Britains Heritage Get Lime Street Plans Called In?-We Hope So.

Describing the proposals as “oversized student accommodation and shopping units of bland design”, SAVE have condemned the move to knock down historic buildings like the Futurist to make way for the scheme.

Director Clem Cecil said: “Lime Street is quintessentially Liverpudlian in its great variety and charm. It is in the buffer zone of the World Heritage Site, a status to be proud of. Liverpool is a truly great city: these new plans are not worthy of it.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/heritage-group-calls-government-investigate-9840643

“As gateway to the city, Lime Street desperately needs repair. As stipulated in the WHS guidelines, it is a matter of working with the historic grain of the street rather than against it. We will be calling on the Secretary of State to intervene to allow the best design solution for this important site.”

The planning application, submitted by Regeneration Liverpool and developers Neptune, was opposed by heritage groups concerned at the loss of buildings including the Futurist cinema, built in 1912.

Experts say the site is in such poor condition it cannot be saved, with local campaign group Save the Futurist accepting this with a “heavy heart” ahead of the planning committee’s decision.

Neptune have committed to working with Save the Futurist to ensure the new-look street celebrates Lime Street’s cinematic past - with panels etched with designs to mark this among their plans.

While their argument does not focus only on the Futurist, SAVE believe the building should be repaired instead of being replaced. President Marcus Binney said: “The years before the First World War were a golden age of architecture in Liverpool.

“This section of Lime Street leading directly into the World Heritage site is especially rich with the riotously ornate Vines Pub of 1907 and grandly baroque Futurist Cinema. Built as the City Picture House in 1912 this is the incunabula of Cinema Architecture and must be saved.”

SAVE are requesting the call-in because they believe the site is of national and international significance, the proposals conflict with planning policies, they will have significant effects beyond their immediate locality and raise architectural and urban design issues.
http://www.savebritainsheritage.org/

If a planning application is called-in it leads to a public inquiry. Recommendations over the plans are then made to the Secretary of State, who takes the final decision.

The Lime Street plans include a 101-room hotel and 412 student accommodation complex. Neptune revised the plans after critical feedback of its original designs, with Joe Anderson praising the new-look proposal and suggesting it would have a “vibrant and exciting” impact on the area.

Further Reading

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/lime-street-architectural-abortion-paul.html


http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/save-futurist-from-neptune-developments.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/call-this-regeneration-liverpool-lime.html