Thursday, 15 April 2010

Heritage Fruitcakes-From Bonkers Ville.

I have met some of the most highly intelligent people that I respect and admire, in Heritage circles, I have trodden, if there is such a thing. People locally, like Florence Gersten and colleagues of mine at the LPT whose determination to see out a cause should be rewarded, but are not, as they put their time in for free. Instead they stand up to be counted while others do nothing. People with a richness of character to see through the press pap and don’t need to be part of a backslappers anonymous are the people who I admire. People who wont be swayed. Then there are those who are a Nemesis of themselves who have nothing better to do and take any argument to a new level……….downwards into a intellectual twaffle that just allows the developers and the councils, wherever they be, to do exactly what they want, while the twaffs are holding another wine and cheese evening, twaffling on, making friends with which to future twaffle, because they have a lonely existence……yes you know who you are. Its like they need acceptance and the heritage brigade are a well mannered lot and dont often argue. It does not mean that these exhibitions to a city, and involvement highlighting problems are not welcome, but with any battle it is the locals know the lay of the land. But, others see those arguments as publicity and a need to be accepted by people, so they join groups and pay subscriptions and turn up at places and….twaffle. These people are no use to us at the LPT. Colleagues of mine have resigned or want nothing to do with do-gooders who do nothing, yes you know who you are from groups like the Merseyside Civic Society. Those that run so called heritage forums talk about cigarette stumps outside the Port of Liverpool Buildings being unsightly and don’t mention world heritage blight 10 yards away…blind to facts…..those that should know better.


At a Heritage wine and cheese evening I met someone called Evelyn Cook “I am Byword” she said “In BD”. Oh all right if you like I thought. She then rattled on as to what she wasn’t happy about slagged off Liverpool’s blight, all those at SAVE http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/03/save-exhibition.html  who did the exhibition and how she does this and that and she runs the Nemesis Republic blog which I added to ours. But no more, After 450 e-mails of which 430 are just plain bonkers-Ville I have removed any involvement from this silly woman. But we just can’t take any more of this twaffle. It seems anyone these days can set up a pseudonym and then rattle off antagonistic comments http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=437&storycode=3161475  which defeats their own argument. Some people want to be heritage groupies and get annoyed when they don’t get accepted, defending those that do the damage http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/11/loyd-grossman-lectures-us-on-heritage.html  Those, well her, at the Nemesis Banana republic should be ashamed of themselves for having nothing else to do than try to undermine work done by us. We offer no explanations to who we are the words LIVERPOOL PRESERVATION TRUST mean one thing …………..You can trust us. We will tell the truth and wont be swayed by anyone, and the type of friends and colleagues who twaffle about nothing while creeping into the next wine and cheese evening to make themselves feel important can stuff off.
I did radio 4 interviews with Nick Ravenscroft about Liverpool’s World Heritage Site or Blight, as we shall now call it. All the bods were rolled out Jim Gill from Liverpool Vision http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/search/label/Liverpool%20Vision  and they all tried to bemoan us at LPT as opposition to their hairbrained schemes.
It was 20 minutes later that I received e-mail from the then President of the Royal Institute of British Architects, RIBA, it said.

“Wayne I can see what they try to do and always remember even in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth”.
I wont forget his support but will never pander to liars who ignore world heritage s*ite so they can stay in with their mates. I know who my colleagues are, those who I can trust, because they trust themselves, do you?

45 comments:

  1. Very interesting. It's wise to know who your friends are or, in this case, are not. I can't imagine why someone involved in heritage protection would want to undermine another society of like minded people. Very sad.

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  2. http://badbritisharchitecture.blogspot.com/2010/04/sainsburys-supermarket-in-crosby.html

    Nemisis The Banana Republic is now involved in a Crosby Sainsburys scheme, apparantly that she knows nothing about. Beware the people of Crosby.

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  3. Worth understanding, David Swift, that the LPT is not, in any normal sense of the word, an "organisation" - it has no members, no constitution, no remit - jusy a mouthpiece for Wayne, who is tragically ill-advised about conservation.

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  4. So much spectacularly wrong here though, it's a hoot. I suppose it was meant to be funny? It is. Hugely.

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  5. 12 more e-mails again today..............will you just go away and stop being so annoying. We are now not having anything else to do with heritage fruitcakes

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  6. Wayne I would not want us to waste any more time with these spitful people who when you dont coo to them they get a chip on. I agree with you its everything that is wrong with the heritage system is that it is infiltrated by a load of O.A.P's who cant and wont listen to the truth about heritage procedure because they are the ones who are the problem. We should now concentrate on the real goal of exposing the do-gooders as those who do nothing because they, it seems are a Cabal doing as much damage as the developers for accepting the status quo.

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  7. And you CO are a conservation officer if you are anything like the crew that have allowed Liverpools heritage to be destroyed because they are a pathetic bunch and are institutionalised with deciet well we wont take any lectures from you, thank you very much.
    I know David Swift as someone who I can trust....see the word trust is so important not the silly organisations that you hide in shadows behind.so if you dont mind.

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  8. Trust Wayne? You don't know the meaning of the word! Just as you know not a lot about planning or a great deal else. Now, rant on, but really, you have been outed as the child you are and it really does show why you get nowhere in Liverpool. Sad, but really, you are becoming a part of the problem, not the solution. So, it's going to be 'exposure' now is it? I think you've exposed yourself enough!

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  9. Look out here come the Heritage Mafia . Why be a Nemesis of yourself...........cluck, cluck...cluck.

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  10. Conservation Officer - I put my real name up here on this site and am not afraid to discuss the heritage problems in my city. Can you let me know who you are before YOU tell ME what is worth understanding and who knows what about conservation?

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  11. This looks to me like bullying of the LPT by outsiders. What is the point of behaviour like this, it does not help anyone. Get a life. LPT do a great job for their city.

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  12. "We offer no explanations to who we are the words LIVERPOOL PRESERVATION TRUST mean one thing …………..You can trust us."
    Compare and contrast this (and the lack of success LPT have) with, for example, the work of the Edinburgh Old Town Development Trust - genuinely above board as to who they are, how to join, their legal standing etc (and only a year old):
    http://www.eotdt.org/
    And the sort of results they get (in part because they trust, and work in partnership with, other heritage bodies):
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/16/edinburgh-legal-action-caltongate

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  14. Publishing of such private information is in contravention of Blogger rules.

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  15. This is the information he gave me when asking to join the LPT.........now go away...why are you all hiding behind pseudos.
    We dont have anonymous comments anymore. Why hide all the time? What are you scared of? http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/04/heritage-fruitcakes-from-bonkers-ville_19.html

    When dealing as Conservation Officer for a local authority and it can only be read that the comments made are official county council business the said conservation officers employers may or not be aware, whats your point about rules.

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  17. Yes but when acting as a conservation officer and posting comments as conservation officer...can you see how it looks.
    Anyway no wonder as I said its like some people are collaborators, a sort of Vichy Government and they dont like the true resistance.

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  18. No, what a person does in their own time is up to them. You are making some very fundamental errors.

    You are wrong - about so much. Quite funny really.

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  19. But not about collaboration and in fact you are wrong about content and private information anything in public domain is public information and is permitted by blogger. What is an Norfolk Conservation Officer being so antagonistic about in Liverpool. Is this personal? Nemesis who do you work for and whats your address?

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  21. I don't 'work' for anyone, and as a private individual I'm entitled to privacy if I so choose.

    Indeed, but someone posting in a private capacity and not in their work capacity is entitled to privacy.

    Anyhow,it's clear now that the LPT is no such thing.

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  22. Heritage Fruitcakes from Bonkersville.......well and truly cooked.

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  23. If you want privacy you should keep your big ugly mouth shut then. Those who stick their noses into everyone elses business usually end up with it a little shorter. Especially in places that they dont even live. What gives you the right to be a pain in the rectum. Now where is it you live we know you stick your nose into Edinburgh without leaving your name and address so I think there may be a few people who would wish to know where you reside and who you represent. To ensure you too are not being collaborater with the establishment while making out you are some sort of rebel. When really its just a free wine and cheese evening with a load of heritage fruitcakes your after.
    Now can you go away you annoying little woman....from......?

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  25. But where do you work and why do you not have anything else to do.

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  26. Jesus she has now got another blog site so desperate to be liked she copies other peoples articles down. Someone should take that Zimmer-Frame away from Evelyn Cook http://archibollocks.blogspot.com/

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  27. Wayne let me take over........Heritage Fruitcake Evelyn Cook from Nemesis and your mates, cant you just piss off and leave us alone and get a life.

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  28. Ageist comments again. Oh dear, Wayne. A violation of Blogger terms of service.

    Archibollocks is fun, isn't it!

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  29. Tosser is that allowed in your terms of service.....go away.

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  30. Sad Bastart with nothing else to do, desperate for attention is that allowed?

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  32. We are going to have to close this she is even sending e-mails. This fruitcake tastes, awful as I send from Bonkers-ville and every reason why you shouldnt join SAVE.

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  33. How come we get a nutter like this she has now left comments on the next blog..........is she a STALKER....how come its my luck to get some ould bint nutter wasting my time

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  34. Lets hope that is the last of it so we can get on with other things.

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  35. http://the-liverpool-preservation-trust.blogspot.com/

    It looks like the Stalker has set up a website to try to undermine what we do. Evelyn Cook you really are a sad bastard who will do anything for attention.

    Charles Korsham

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  36. Charles this is a phsyco-wench with nothing else to do in her sad life.......In my opinion. Just ignore her if she wants to be a stalker then you have to feel sorry for her. She represents nobody and she is a reject.

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  37. What gets me is that some-one can be so vociferous when they dont live here. Do you know where they live?

    Is she representing Save Britains Heritage.
    I found this poem on line

    I shall not, I think, grow
    round, brown and sweet as a cobnut,
    but sour and suck-cheeked
    as a December crab-apple. I shall sit,
    narrow-eyed, wide-kneed, clot-veined,
    in a chair by the porch,
    malodorous as slurry.

    http://www.academi.org/cipc/i/130789/

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  38. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Protective+policies+in+conservation+area.-a0107264967


    Yes Charles thanks for this a quick Google search and I found this online.

    It seems she Evelyn Cook, makes all thes accusations and threats and does it all anonymously. Hey how can that be allowed, no wonder she acts tough, she never gives out her base. So who is this woman representing. Stalkers anonymous, yes we know that. But the internet is a wonderful thing. Here she enlists the help ADAM Wilkinson of one of her SAVE buddies who she claims so readily to represent their views and it is disgraceful that someone one so readily available to give advice to ther people hides.

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  39. http://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/news/news_at_a_glance/cable_car_dream_for_haltwhistle_1_526240?referrerPath=home

    Is it strange that she says World Heritage sites should not be interfered with when its in her own area

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  42. I published this comment in good faith.

    David Ward

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  43. http://nemesisrepulsive.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/evelyn-cook-aka-nemesisrepublic-exposed/

    Evelyn Cook of Nemesis republic and member of SAVE Britains heritage, numerous vile alias and all round fruitcake seems to have upset a lot of people along her hateful journey.

    We want nothing to do with this current argument she has taken on with other groups.
    We are interested in Heritage and conservation in Liverpool only, and have no political views whatsoever unless local to Liverpools polititions and its heritage.

    We have asked David not to print any more of the comments that she has tried to leave on these pages.

    We hope she will go away with her vile trail of cyber squatting and filth.

    It is also interesting to note that she may be NR on building design http://www.bdonline.co.uk/
    A registration may be required.

    The connection with SAVE Britains Heritage leaves us astounded.
    They really should know better than to encourage her.

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