Private Eye Asks, Wirral Waters-IS IT A MYTH?

And what about Liverpool Waters? And it takes Private Eye to expose them while the dodgy Liverpool Echo keep spreading myths. It was they who told the lapping it up public that Stella and her Fella Lindsay Ashworth were going to transform the Wirral skyline. Five years later not a brick has been laid.

Liverpool Confidential Take An Interest In Liverpool Waters.

Greater Manchester Doubtful Over Peel's Atlantic Gateway
Liverpool Confidential writes http://www.liverpoolconfidential.co.uk/News-and-Comment/Greater-Manchester-Has-Doubts-Over-Peels-Atlantic-Gateway

The regional authorities need convincing over Wirral Waters and Liverpool Waters schemes

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THIS ARTICLE FIRST APPEARED ON OUR SISTER SITE PLACE NORTH WEST.

GREATER Manchester Combined Authority is likely to vote against a proposal by the new Atlantic Gateway Board to prioritise Liverpool and Wirral Waters (the latter pictured above) as major projects for economic growth, unless there is more 'robust evidence' in their favour.

"It will work constructively with the scheme sponsors and the Atlantic Gateway Board to test the information and the evidence base to establish whether Wirral and Liverpool Waters should be identified as projects of more than sub-regional significance, and thus major projects for Atlantic Gateway to support."

A paper put to the executive board meeting of the GM Combined Authority in Oldham was written by Mike Emmerich, chief executive of GM policy think-tank New Economy, and Barbara Spicer, chief executive of Salford City Council. The pair responded to a request from the Atlantic Gateway Board to elevate Peel Group's Liverpool and Wirral Waters as 'major projects' within Atlantic Gateway.

The Atlantic Gateway Board is a public-private group made up of local authority officers, councillors, private sector advisors, and chaired by former Manchester Airport boss Geoff Muirhead.

The board, which includes representatives from Greater Manchester, was formed in late 2011 to promote large infrastructure and innovation projects (see below for list of board members) planned for the area around the River Mersey, Manchester Ship Canal and hinterland. Many but not all of the projects are proposed by Peel Group. Others promoted include Daresbury Science & Innovation Campus and Northern Hub rail expansion.

Emmerich and Spicer recommend that "the [GM] Combined Authority does not support [Peel's] Wirral and Liverpool Waters schemes as priority projects for Atlantic Gateway until it can be satisfied" on three points.

The points are:

a) There is a robust evidence base to confirm market demand for such a significant amount of grade A commercial floor-space outside any city centre

b) It can be clearly demonstrated that the projects will deliver net added value to the region as a whole, across all three LEP areas

c) There is a clear deliverable investment plan in place that shows the level of private investment involved, and considers the costs and benefits of any public investment that may be required including infrastructure support

The report goes on: "The Combined Authority is concerned to ensure that at a time when public investment to support priorities is likely to be severely constrained, that the focus is on those projects which really can contribute to the region's GVA at the minimum cost to the public purse.

"It will work constructively with the scheme sponsors and the Atlantic Gateway Board to test the information and the evidence base to establish whether Wirral and Liverpool Waters should be identified as projects of more than sub-regional significance, and thus major projects for Atlantic Gateway to support."

Manchester City Council and the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities have objected previously on similar economic grounds.

Liverpool Waters, currently pending planning and subject to opposition from English Heritage, would cover 150 acres of dockland north of the city centre. Wirral Waters has outline planning consent and envisages more than 6m sq ft of mixed-use development in Birkenhead docklands.

Peel declined to comment.

The board members of Atlantic Gateway are:

• Geoff Muirhead, private sector
• Dennis Bate, private sector
• John Downes, private sector
• Peter Nears, private sector
• Martin Douglas, private sector
• Roger Milburn, private sector and Greater Manchester LEP
• Steve O'Connor, private and Liverpool City Region LEP
• Martin Ashcroft, private and Cheshire & Warrington LEP
• Walter Menzies, voluntary sector - environmental representative
• Cllr John Merry, public sector, Association of Greater Manchester Authorities
• Cllr Rob Polhill , public sector, Liverpool City Region
• Cllr Terry O'Neill , public sector - Cheshire and Warrington

Larry Neild also write now that he has left the dreadful Aurora Media(once October communications) he may well be less comprimised and we congratulate him for getting out of the slime. http://www.liverpoolconfidential.co.uk/News-and-Comment/Crunch-time-looms-for-Liverpool-Waters-after-Peel-ultimatum

Liverpool Waters, Wirral Waters, and now Chatham Waters.

Development giant Peel Land & Property has lodged outline plans for its £650 million mixed-use Chatham Waters scheme in Kent designed by 5 Plus Architects

http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/daily-news/peel-submits-another-monster-waterside-scheme/8621868.article
Richard Waite writes:

The 10ha scheme on brownfield land at Chatham Docks is the latest behemoth waterside scheme to be submitted by the development company which is already working on the £5.5billion Liverpool Waters with Chapman Taylor and the nearby 1.4 million m² Wirral Waters scheme
Drawn up with Indigo Planning and Planit ie, the 176,000m² project includes a commercial heart incorporating office space, education facilities, a hotel, flats, townhouses, new public areas and a food store.
James Whittaker, development director at Peel said: ‘The feedback we received at the public consultation was invaluable and we are very pleased that so many people [90 per cent of those questioned] were supportive of our plans for Chatham Waters. We have taken the comments received on board and are pleased to have submitted a planning application to Medway Council.’


They said the same about Liverpool Waters when they put a few boards out in a shop in the city centre.

Do Peel Holdings Have The Money To Develop Liverpool Waters?

That is a question that needs a long hard look at.

Would a Chinese investor even consider investing in the Euro-Zone at the moment knowing that the currency could, or may implode?

What is the Financial Gearing that Peel Holdings have at the Banks at present?

Would the Roschild's Invest in a company that wants to build tens of thousands of appartments on Liverpool Waters when the same company (or subsiduary) has plans passed on Wirral Waters for ten thousand appartments?

Who is going to live in them all?

We congratulated Peel for wanting to develop Wirral (not a stone been laid yet).
But its not a World Heritage Site.

Is this just a planning permission exersice so that John Whittaker the tax exile living in the Isle Of Man, who owns 60% of Peel, can top up his pension pot?

In order to get the level of Chinese cash out of the country, when China feels threatened by the global economic downturn, to invest in Liverpool Waters, you need a lot of power, Peel may think themselves powerful, but they are not that big. 

In the meantime we have a City Council under the stewardship of Joe Anderson, (who is far too close to Peel Holdings), that needs to stop and take a look at the full gravity of the situation, instead of spinning another one just like the other one.........because we no longer believe you understand what you are doing with Our World Heritage, Mr Anderson.

Unesco is like a lumbering Elephant, but when they fall on you you get squashed.

Imagine the embarrasment of losing the World Heritage Site?

Peel Holdings Win Carbuncle Cup-What Hope Is There For Liverpools World Heritage Site?

Yes, they, at Peel Holdings, managed it, an award for carbunculating Salford with an architectural atrocity that is that bad it even knocked the new Museum of Liverpool into second place in the same competition.

Media City Salford scoops the award for the worst development of 2011.

The BBC put a brave face on it with a little snapshot on BBC Northwest.
The regional director was asked about the Carbuncle Cup award for their new home. "Well it suited our needs" he said. Two years ago when the Terminal Ferry Carbuncle won and One Park Gone West came fourth, there was extensive coverage. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/08/liverpool-wins-carbuncle-cup.html
They, at the BBC ran a series on name your carbuncle. Ed Thomas now on national BBC said it was great, it caused a sensation, tapping into something, the phone lines were on fire.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2011/09/museum-of-liverpool-runner-up-in-2011.html


"Which truly creative person would ever want to work in such a place?" The Guardian's Jonathan Glancey

A `crime against the built environment'… A `lack of urban vitality' are just some of the nicer things said about Peel Holdings' MediaCityUK site as it won Building Design magazine's Carbuncle Cup today – given to the year's worst building.
The sterilized Media City site even held off the squashed oblong that is the new Liverpool Museum to take the least coveted architectural prize in the country.

What Salford Star call MINGIN' MEDIA CITY

"…a city is the last thing one would mistake this development for"
http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=1084 You have to read the local opinion!!!!!!!!!!
 They go on, on their firebrand style webspace that holds no punches and tells the truth.

Referring to the BBC's move to MediaCityUK, the Carbuncle Cup commendation states that "it is hard to see how the corporation could set its aspirations any lower… Following the Blue Peter garden's recent relocation to Salford, one can only presume that the newly reinterred Petra must be turning in her grave."

Yes, Peel Holdings' flagship "crime against the built environment" absolutely stormed the award for the worst building in the UK today. The jury - architecture critics, Rowan Moore of the Observer, Hugh Pearman of the Sunday Times and the Guardian's Jonathan Glancey – were unanimous in their verdict that the £600million Salford Quays site visually stinks.

The commendation states that Media City "had every opportunity to be a piece of city to be treasured for centuries to come". Instead we got "a crazed accumulation of development, in which every aimlessly gesticulating building sports at least three different cladding treatments. The overriding sense is one of extreme anxiety on the part of the architects - an unholy alliance of Wilkinson Eyre, Chapman Taylor and Fairhursts."
It adds that "There is no urban idea to speak of whatsoever - no space that one might recognise as a street; no common architectural language; no difference between the fronts and backs of buildings; no distinction between the civic buildings and the private ones…"
It concludes: "No-one can be too surprised that Peel Holdings…is behind MediaCityUK but quite how the BBC has stooped this low is hard to fathom..."

http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=1031

http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=1075

Media City community money scandal Part 1 and 2,(worth a read)   http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=835       

PEEL HOLDINGS, WHO HAVE SUBMITTED PLANS TO CARBUNCULATE WHATS LEFT OF THE LIVERPOOL WORLD HERITAGE SITE WITH ARCHITECTURE THAT IS EVEN WORSE THAN MEDIA CITY.

Then they are building Wirral Waters with abysmal style architectural, of crass design, of the same style, that has just found them awarded the Carbuncle Cup for.

Just look what they have done on Princes Dock already, turning it into MILTON KEYNES-ON-SEA  http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/04/milton-keynes-on-sea.html 

Further Reading

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/04/liverpool-malmaison-facade-is-falling.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/02/liverpool-waters-glass-pie-in-sky-we.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/09/liverpool-world-heritage-city.html

Liverpool City Council should take a long hard look on where they are spending our hard earned ratepayers money, though a decision has been put back until Unesco inspectors visit the Liverpool Waters site................all the warning signs are there already.

http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=838

We In Liverpool Pay To Help Peel Holdings With Its Wirral Waters Venture

It is reported today by Alex Turner
PEEL has unveiled plans to build a £130m International Trade Centre (ITC) by the River Mersey to house more than 1,000 Chinese companies that want to trade in the UK and Europe.

The developer, which is behind the Liverpool and Wirral Waters schemes, as well as the Trafford Centre and Media City, in Manchester, has identified two possible locations for the two million sq ft development.
They are West Float, in Birkenhead, and the former Bridgewater Paper Mill, near Ellesmere Port, which are both already part of Peel’s land bank.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2011/03/10/130m-peel-trade-centre-wants-to-attract-1-000-chinese-firms-to-river-mersey-setting-92534-28310954/

He goes on, without a question on the foundation of his reportage.

Peel’s development director, Lindsey Ashworth, has already met with potential investors in Beijing and Shanghai, and was encouraged by their response.

He credits Peel’s involvement with Liverpool’s Pavilion at the World Expo in Shanghai last year as providing the platform for the ambitious ITC plans.

“It’s led out of the Expo – our involvement with that has boded very well with the Chinese people, and we just want to keep building on that relationship,” said Mr Ashworth.

Wirral Council leader, Cllr Jeff Green, said: “Given our active support for this project, we believe that the West Float site, with its outstanding links to road, rail and port facilities, is the best site for the International Trade Centre as it will also kick-start a chain of development at the Wirral Waters site.”

Leader of Cheshire West and Chester Council, Mike Jones, added: “The Peel Group’s plans would be a huge boost to Ellesmere Port’s economy, potentially creating thousands of jobs locally and attracting trade from across the world.

“If the project were to come to fruition, the benefits to the town would be incredible and go a long way towards our over-arching regeneration plans for the area – with benefits to both local residents and businesses alike.”

Never Once questioning the fact that we in Liverpool sponsored the Shanghai Expo to the tune of 1.2 million pounds The Daily Ghost just want any old wollap of news to glitz up in a glossy spin......without thinking about it.  

The Mersey Partnership chief executive Lorraine Rogers added: "The concept fits well with the superport plan which has excellent connectivity and infrastructure at its core.

"An International Trade Centre has the potential to open up links with international markets that could accelerate economic growth in the area."
Peel said the decision on which site they will progress with is “for a later date”, but it is pressing ahead with planning applications for both sites. Mr Ashworth expects to lodge the applications at the start of May with the process to be completed by autumn. The development could be completed by the end of 2014.
It added that the sites in Wirral and Ellesmere Port could both be developed, depending on the level of interest, with the potential for them to be focused on different product areas.

Though it may be good news for the region. And these pages have been supportive of Wirral Waters, they don't have a WHS http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/07/joe-anderson-backs-peel-holdings-wirral.html Why does our council leader sponsor the Wirral.
 http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/11/wirral-waters-not-called-in-good-news.html
Why do we have to pay to ship jobs on to the Wirral Peel are already shipping most of the Port of Liverpool to Salford right under Blind Bills nose.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/09/is-bill-gleeson-peel-holdings-spiv.html  

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/11/joe-anderson-spiving-for-peel-holdings.html
With a spiv in every corner Peel can do no wrong.
http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/10/trinity-smoking-mirrors-peels-poodles.html


We are the ones who have been Shanghai-ed by a slight of hand here.
How long can this rubbish reporting go on, not very long according to Correspondent.
http://condensedthoughts.blogspot.com/2011/03/daily-ghost-to-go-weakly.html

Daily Ghost to go weakly

Peel Holdings Land Division Make A Loss. Just Exactly How Will They Fund All Their Projects?

Peel Group’s land and property division increased its turnover and pre-tax profits during the year, but ended up making a loss overall.

IT IS REPORTED ON MANCHESTER CONFIDENTIAL

see: http://www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/Property/General/Peels-land-division-narrows-losses_16267.asp?eid=1142

Newly-filed accounts for Peel Holdings (Land and Property) Ltd show the Trafford-based behemoth, which is in the final stages of completing MediaCity on Salford Quays, recorded turnover of £91m for the year to March 31, 2010, compared to £82m in 2009.

Profits at the firm, controlled by Isle of Man-based John Whittaker, shot up to £56.5m (2009: £48m), but £64m of interest and charges pushed the firm to a loss of £3.8m for the year, an improvement of the £39m it lost a year earlier.

The debt of the group also increased however, to £907m, compared to £888m the year before.

The company’s commercial rent roll dipped by £3m to £66m. It is still spending £5m a year on empty rates charges, on the 958,000 sq ft of space it has vacant. The firm had more than 1m sq ft sat empty in 2009, however.

The company controls a 25,000-acre land portfolio. It firm recently got planning permission for its Wirral Waters scheme and submitted proposals for Liverpool Waters, the UK’s largest planning application. Last June, it was given planning consent for the 1.5m sq ft Port Salford.

It also said it intended to progress planning work on its £50bn ‘Ocean Gateway’ scheme, which links Manchester and Liverpool via the ship canal corridor.

Peel failed in its bid to build a horse racing track at Salford Forest Park, however. It now says a ‘luxury golf course concept’ will be drawn up for the site.

The firm employed 133 people during the year, with a wage bill of £7.9m The highest-paid director received £343,000. It also contributed £7m to charity during the year, an increase on the £1m it dished out to worthy causes during 2009.

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-daily-post-and-echo-mouthpiece-for.html

You wont find any of this in Trinity "Smoking" Mirrors at Oldham Hall Street. Peel Holdings Liverpool PR company.

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/10/trinity-smoking-mirrors-peels-poodles.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/09/peel-holdings-arrogant-bastards.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/07/stinky-ink-bartlett-comes-up-smelling.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/05/trinity-smoking-mirrors-helping-peel.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/04/peel-holdings-asset-stripping-liverpool.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/03/peel-holdings-want-pier-head-stinky-ink.html

Meanwhile Stinky Ink Bartlett "The Prisoner" sits on this story.

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/11/liverpool-waters-public-inquiry-is.html

Wirral Waters Not Called In-Good News For The Wirral.

Peel Holdings have had the good news that Wirral Waters will not be called in. This is excellent news for the Wirral and is long overdue. I was working at Franklin Stafford Architects at the Albert Dock in 1995 and they were to be the preferred architects for the then 12 Quays development. This never came to fruition, but it now looks like finally something, if we are to believe Peel Holdings, will happen.
Liverpool will now have the other side of the river to look at and the added investment, if it comes, should bring jobs to the local economy.
I really hope Peel will deliver their plans.

There are no World Heritage issues Wirral side, so good luck Wirral.
Lets hope that Uncle Joe Anderson understands what could happen if he helps Peel too much with Liverpool's World Heritage Site.

Joe Anderson, Backs Peel Holdings, Wirral Waters.

Not sure what to make of Uncle Joe yet. Not sure if, as the Fib-Dems were devious he is a bit more, simple, should I say. It has been said to me that he makes Warren Bradley look clever. But I dont think even Warren Bradley would support the competition.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/07/30/liverpool-and-wirral-council-leaders-agree-not-to-disagree-over-wirral-waters-plans-92534-26961001/

If Uncle Joe is to support Liverpool Waters and supposing he is on board and has been hooked in by Lyndsey Ashworth of Peel, why would you support a scheme that is going to be in direct competition and will start ahead of one on your own side of the river.

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/07/liverpool-waters-english-heritage-hold.html

It is possibly a good idea and considering there are no heritage issues,  But what is the payback when our council leader goes hand in hand with a massive developer, wasn't that what the Fib-Dem spivs did and look at the world heritage mess they left behind.

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/06/joe-anderson-to-save-liverpools.html

Correspondent in his musings calls for less of Joe's gimmicks. http://condensedthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/07/less-of-gimmicks-joe.html

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/06/frank-mckenna-suckles-at-breast-of-joe.html

Liverpool Waters-Glass Pie in the Sky. We Need a Public Inquiry.

It is that easy to put a few bits of perspex on a sheet of ply and tell everyone you are going to create a 5.5 billion pound development. I think this will never happen. What will happen is Peel will get planning permission and then knock the land out to developers such as City Lofts who went bust because they could not sell the appartments in Milton Keynes-On-Sea, Princes Dock. I attended the Peel exhibition in Whitechapel, it took me ages to find it there was no signs outside. Well when I finally got in, it is as bad as what I thought. All my life I have waited for Liverpool to pull its socks up to come back on centre stage to get investment and when we do get capital investment they destroy the world heritage site. These proposals are to turn Liverpool into Shanghai-on-Sea and they are potentially as destructive to Liverpool as what has happened to the world heritage site at the Pier Head.

I spoke to someone from the architects Chapman Taylors offices called Paul Taylor quite a nice man…..unlike the Development Director Lyndsey Ainsworth who was rather rude and obnoxious especially after I told him there should be a public inquiry. I did not introduce myself but he kept on accusing people of standing in the way of progress. I have heard it all before when they rolled out the Mann Island plans the Cloud Fiasco and here we have a new set of carpet-bagging arrogants who want to foist another set of third rate blocks of flats this time on Central Docks and calling it Liverpool Waters. We want to make things happen, look forward what are you doing”? he said “Well you don’t know who I am or what I am doing" as I never introduced myself”
“We don’t have to put this show on we don’t have to” he said. As if he was doing it for our benefit I told him this is for the benefit of Peels shareholders. “Shows you just how much you know we don’t have shareholders Peel Holdings is owned by one man” he knew exactly what I meant but considering that one man will benefit from all this if it is accepted by the planning authority is a very bad reality that needs to be kept in mind. This will in fact all benefit just one man. A tax exile living in the Isle of Man. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/09/cruise-wars-liverpool-gets-full-naval.html
There was a bloke talking to him who stood there staring at me said he was a local, no local talks with that accent. A group of Peel employees gathered around and Ainsworth flipped away comments I made about world heritage as if he didn’t care. “We have people working for us who know what they are doing professional people”
“Yes like Peter de Figeurido the ex English Heretic who should have advised against Mann Island and instead sold his soul”  He did not like to be matched and became a slight bit agitated especially each time I mentioned public inquiry which I did several times just to see his reaction and his twitching. “It meets all the criteria for a…public inquiry” http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/08/peeled-in-front-of-our-noses.html What about competing against itself with Wirral Waters.
“You just dont want anything to happen to a run down place” How long have they owned it.
You only have to look at Milton Keynes-On-Sea which is Princes Docks.
What was clearly visible to me was what I warned of months ago that Peel want to make a Cruise Liner Facility, not a jetty, and they have the customs office. Why don’t you just use ours and pay the 9 million European grant back I asked. “We don’t want to we want our own”. We can see right through the perspex blocks, we have heard it all before. When I questioned him about the press reports "Dont believe what you read in these local papers" he said in his Manchester  accent.
“Yes its all politics, I said, the Salford Star is the journal what tells it straight about Peel Holdings” http://www.salfordstar.com/default.asp put Peel Holdings or the NWDA into their search box http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=452 Try this one
He also said a underwater survey has been done of the old landing stage they have let rot but Peel has no plans to demolish it. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/09/liverpool-cruise-liner-cock-up-blame.html Yes and I believe that one.


"We are doing you a favour Ashworth proclaimed", It seems that a misguided arrogance from Peel will grow in the coming months………..until we have a public inquiry.

LiverPeeled in Front of our Noses

Peel are to have the plans for Wirral Waters rubber stamped this week.


Liverpool's City Council have, forever been partners with Peel Holdings in amongst other things, the development of the Liverpool John Lennon Airport in Speke ...Above us only pollution.
It is granted that this brings a lot of tourists in to Liverpool... and just as many out.
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/08/03/first-council-approvals-for-4bn-wirral-waters-92534-24300431/
What is alarming again is the failure of the so called local press to put two related stories together, along with the new tram spin http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/08/03/tram-link-bid-for-liverpool-airport-92534-24300789/ and stir up debate about the recessional effect that a lot of us have witnessed before in Liverpool, instead of how wonderful Peel are. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/08/03/population-of-liverpool-may-stagnate-due-to-council-s-budget-black-hole-92534-24300791/ The sums just don't add up. You cant go on binge building without, at some time waking up with a massive hangover. PEEL ARE THE NEW DAWN WE ARE BEING TOLD by the papers YET THEY HAVE BY-PASSED LIVERPOOL'S PORT. (Oh, and the local papers have sent a load of printing jobs to Oldham). Now they, Peel are developing the Wirral, in direct competition to their promised plans for Liverpool. They promised us a new port facility. until Salford plans were passed and then scrapped the plans. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ldpbusiness/business-local/2009/07/29/peel-s-100m-port-plan-halted-by-recession-92534-24262362/ We have had all the hot air from Mark Thommo and his Business editors Gleeson and McDonut at the Daily Ghost but when are they REALLY going to start looking into the need to create real jobs not dippy here today gone tommorrow, shop jobs http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/07/31/liverpool-among-worst-cities-for-empty-shops-92534-24282569/that rely on people pigging out on retail therapy. We need engineering and industrial jobs that last. So we can train apprentices and compete for the future. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-daily-post-and-echo-mouthpiece-for.html YOU CANT CREATE JOBS WHEN YOUR PORT IS BEING CIRCUMNAVIGATED.
WHEN, and why DO THE LOCAL PRESS IN THEIR VAIN ATTEMPTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE WRITING ABOUT EXASPERATE THE TRUE SITUATION? It is not what they do tell, its what they don't that bothers me.
http://condensedthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/07/every-so-often-cold-blast-of-economic.html

I will leave it to Mr Correspondent to do a little bit of explaining about the retail situation just as we have flooded the market with Grosvenor-pool.