The Scandanavian Hotel To Be......Student Digs.

Yes we need it done up and we welcome investment to any historic structure, but is that the best that can be done in a position right next to the Historic Black -E and the Chinese arch that was imported all the way from China. http://www.theblack-e.co.uk/


All this recent talk about Chinese Investment and what do Downing do, miss the boat and do the cheapest thing that is possible and turn a building that has been subject to endless speculation into a pad for students.


It’s the cheapest option that shows a lack of imagination.

This part of Liverpool is becoming a giant student flat.

241 flats in a building this size will they be the size of rabbit hutches. Where are apartments for families that will put something back into the area that just does not feed the booze economy
And will the commercial space in the planning application provide space for another bland Tesco style supermarket to feed them.

There is always the usual roof extension that always takes any historic building one step too far.

China Town is no longer the Chinatown that we used to know restaurants are struggling and moving.
All this Chinese interest in Liverpool and the oldest Chinese community in Europe could end up students-ville if we are not careful.


This is an opportunity missed Surely if it was a Scandinavian themed hotel it would be full on every Liverpool Home match day. (as nearly all the crowd is made up of Norwegians these days).

Planning applications no 13F/0157 and 0159 (what happened to 0158) also takes in the demolition of 8 & 8A Nelson Street and is submitted by Shed KM Ltd of 61 Bold Street on behalf of GMD Investments Ltd or in other words Downing of Myrtle Street.

Here is one we did earlier

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/scandanavian-hotel-shambles.html

The Whitehouse Public House

As I write there are fie-engines all over the road dealing with a fire.

Not sure of the extent of the damage or whether it extends to the Whitehouse Public House that has lain derelict for so long.

This is the one with the Banksy that is not a Banksy on i,t that was owned by Frenson.
All these promises about work starting shortly and how it was going to be an arts centre. Ummmmmmmmmmm

http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/whitehouse-pub-is-it-really-banksy.html

The Whitehouse Pub-Is it really a Banksy?

The myth has been perpetuated by the local papers that this is a Banksy, the secretive Graffiti artist who it was said was not commissioned to do it, but he popped up here and got off the train….with several sets of ladders, scaffold, brushes, rollers with extensions…oh and spray cans, and knocked it out.
If this is a Banksy then my Auntie is my Uncle.


Mythmakers Trinity “Smoking” Mirrors see mileage in this I even know the reporter who made the story up and who told him to do so.
Yesterday it sold for £114,000.
Despite carrying a guide price of between £70,000 and £80,000, four bidders battled past the £81,000 mark to try to secure one of the city’s most famous landmarks.
Kirkby-based business partners Billy Palmer and Sina Moradian eventually emerged victorious, saying they were keen to preserve one of Banksy’s largest authentic artworks.
“We are not fans of Banksy, but we are keen to keep it. We will have to see how it goes with the rest of the works.”
Mr Moradian, 24, who owns the Funky Box nightclub, in Fleet Street, said: “We were looking for a freehold property and this has a good location and good investment potential.”
Joking about the elusive Bristol-born artist, he added: “We are keen to keep the rat. I might try to get in contact with Banksy and ask him to come and re-do it once we are ready to paint the outside.”
James Kersh, director of the Sutton Kersh auction at Liverpool’s Marriott Hotel, said: “We knew it was going to sell, given the amount of interest it generated.
“It was the first building with famous artwork we have sold and it was difficult to predict the price, but it went well.”
Any alterations to the interior or exterior of the building must go to Liverpool Council for planning consent.
The Council Historic Environment Champion (sic) Bernie Turnup….just what did go on at Harthill Allotments…allotted it a repairs notice so, even though shysters Frenson, the scourge of Liverpool’s Georgiana, were selling it. So it comes along with a repairs notice that cant be ignored. Its Grade II. So even to paint over the artwork will need permission from the pathetic conservation office who have let it get to this sorry state. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/01/frenson-ltd-scourge-of-liverpools.html
Across the road the Scandinavian Hotel still is a shamble affair http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/01/scandanavian-hotel-shambles.html 

Chris Griffiths the waste of space buildings at risk officer was at the auction. He then put his blindfold back on, so he can ignore the hotel opposite and the dereliction in Duke Street, and went home to his place in the Albany in Oldham Hall Street, that has dry rot in the balcony. See what happens Mr Griffiths if you do shoddy repairs under a repairs notice from the council, some-one gets lumped with it down the line.

THe Scandanavian Hotel-A Shambles

Today David Bartlett in the Daily Post paints a telling picture of the fiasco which has been going on for far too long. This is all we want a fair crack of the whip and a bit of help with the fight to save Liverpools historic fabric before its too late. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/01/14/developer-and-liverpool-city-council-abandons-plans-for-landmark-hotel-site-92534-25597739/  He even follows it up with his blog. http://blogs.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/dalestreetblues/2010/01/the-sad-saga-of-liverpools-for.html One of the prattish comments from some one calling himself regen man ( Its not Downing who are the Daily Post and Echos landlords is it, or someone working for him is it?) says it is over the top but I disagree so I will print it here. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/views/liverpool-daily-post/2010/01/14/comment-time-to-sort-out-the-scandinavian-hotel-mess-for-once-and-for-all-92534-25597344/  says

Comment: Time to sort out the Scandinavian Hotel mess for once and for all

Jan 14 2010 Liverpool Daily Post
WHATEVER the ins and outs of the various deals first struck and then seemingly unstruck over the future of the Scandinavian Hotel in Nelson Street, the message to the city council must be that it has to be sorted out now.
Not later, not at some vague time in the future, but now. They’ve had a quarter of a century to get their act together: that’s plenty enough time.
Once everyone has calmed down, of course, we have to agree that, yes, there have been extenuating circumstances. There has been a long dispute over payments to various parties with a claim upon various parts of the building, and there is no disputing that we are well beyond the economic peak of a couple of years ago.
Whether or not Liverpool can fill another hotel on the edge of the city centre in the current climate is possibly open to question. The cry that the city is oversupplied with hotel rooms has gone up at intervals over the years, but has not stopped would-be hoteliers chancing their arm and, seemingly, making money.
It all sounds so utterly reasonable. Yet the fact remains that here is a distinctive part of Liverpool’s cityscape that has been under threat for longer than many people can remember and a final solution seems as far away as ever.
In the years since the building was last open for any kind of business, Liverpool has been transformed, yet somehow the old Scandinavian has not been caught up in the process.
Maybe the time has come after all to throw reason and caution to the winds and demand of the city’s elected representatives and its officers that they get their act together and sort out the affairs of the Scandinavian immediately. And that means now.

Interesting that Tuesdays planning committee voted to CPO the Whitehouse opposite. http://liverpoolpreservationtrust.blogspot.com/2010/01/frenson-ltd-scourge-of-liverpools.html It is now reported.
Liverpool Council’s planning committee approved a repairs notice on the Watchmaker’s building, in Seel Street, and the legendary Whitehouse pub, in Berry Street.

Officials said that if owner Frenson Ltd refuses to start works or sell the Grade II-listed buildings within two months, it will start proceedings to compulsorily purchase both.
The 200-year-old Whitehouse pub is one of the best-known landmarks in the city centre.
But it is rotting beneath the image of a huge cat by graffiti artist Banksy daubed on its walls.
The Watchmaker’s building was a Victorian watch and clock-making factory.
Planners say it is the finest example of this type of building in the city.
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/01/13/repair-or-lose-historic-liverpool-city-centre-buildings-firm-told-92534-25587402/
With the shambolic mess that they got into with our money paying for legal costs. With Berni Turner involved will the same think happen as in Seel Street. How bloody long will this go on for. Decades, they have had to sort this mess out, its not right.